dicker hat geschrieben: ↑So 7. Apr 2024, 13:36
@mraleki: I find your point of view very one-sided. You don't go into the unbelievable deeds of your people at all. May I ask you briefly whether everything that happened on October 7, 2024 is a legitimate path for Hamas?
How do you feel about Judaism in general?
Are you familiar with the massacre of Jews in Hebron in 1929? The Israeli state didn't even exist back then.
I would really like to know that from you.
Brother you find my views awkward because you are not usually exposed to them, and if anyone ever tries they will get accused of fake antisemitism or be censored in Germany
I will answer your questions and I will tell you the side that you don't head, a side that will be banned and censored in fusion starting from this year
What happened in October 7 is a tragedy, though history didn't start in October 7, Palestinians didn't decide one day to wake up and go attack Israelis which most of them were military personnel, this is not an evil deed that happened out of no where, you and everyone knows that the Palestinians have been under a colonial apartheid occupation for the past 75 years and counting but chose to be silent, those people in Gaza are refugees under siege since they were born and until the day they die, they are from towns and cities that either were turned to Israeli cities or being wiped off the map.
Every day to the Palestinians is an october 7, every day they get their land stolen their people killed and their kids jailed, every day they live under an military occupation suffocating everything that lives, the difference is that you and others in Germany and the west had kept silent , encouraged that occupation and supported it because Palestinian lives don't matter and they aren't viewed as equal human beings
So my question to you, is the occupation a legitimate path for Israel? Is the land theft a legitimate path? Is the apartheid ( not by my standard, but every human rights organization says so ) a legitimate path of Israel?
Both sides aren't equally responsible, one is a occupied and the other is an occupier, one lives under the dominant force of an apartheid system and the other is subjugated by that system.
You have asked me about the 1929 events and I am aware of that, every drop of blood spilled is a waste. These events happened in Hebron , these events happened under the control of the British mandate the same mandate that promised Palestine to the Zionists the same mandate that got these Zionists from Europe and made them settle in Palestine, these people weren't native Palestinian Jews, they were European settlers that before the events in hebron have made settlements there and started taking local land by the support of the British army, these people went into demonstrations demanding the control over neighborhoods that didn't belong to them in Jerusalem and other places in Palestine, tensions were high between the local population and these new European settlers and those events happened, and you can't ask people not to defend their land against a foreign colonizer!
Now you asked me about the Hebron event of 1929, I will ask you about many others?
Are you familiar of the events that led to the establishment of the state of Israel? Are you familiar with the events in 1948 that have lead to the expulsion of 750 thousands Palestinians from their land? The land that is no called Israel? Are you familiar of the thousands and thousands of dead Palestinians?
Are you familiar with Deir Yassin Massacre (April 1948)?
Are you familiar with Tantura Massacre (May 1948)?
Are you familiar with Lydda Massacre (July 1948)?
Are you familiar with Qibya Massacre (October 1953)?
Are you familiar with Khan Yunis Massacre (November 1956)?
Are you familiar with Sabra and Shatila Massacres (September 1982)?
Are you familiar with The Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre (February 1994)?
Are you familiar with every single war in Gaza and the ongoing genocide where 34 thousands have died and many are still under the rubble? Where people were being killed collecting flour? Where families have been wiped out from the record?
And many many more where Palestinians on daily basis could lose their lives under this occupation
Who makes excuses for an occupation and an apartheid regime? Definitely not a leftist but one that sides with fascism.
My opinion about Judaism is that it's a religion, like all the other Abrahamic religion aka Judaism Christianity and Islam. I'm not a believer so all religions are the same to me, something from the past and if anyone wants to believe then please do and everyone has that right but no one has the right to say based on.my religion god gave me that land, this is bullshit.
Anti Zionism is not antisemitism and the only people who want to mix both are Zionists themselves, Germans and american christian Zionists , they want to hijack the Jewish faith as a front for their colonial ideology, many Jews are anti Zionists , many people around the world are anti Zionists, to be against a political colonial ideology is free speech and shouldn't be mixed up with hating a specific religion.
It is dangerous to attach all those crimes with the Jewish faith because the Jewish faith has nothing to do with them, a lot of people could be anti Saudi Arabia, anti usa, anti German anti whatever and that's okay and it shouldn't be mixed up with being anti Christian or islamophobia.
These discussions should happen, but sadly they won't because of the censorship that fusion have decided to imply
A free Palestine doesn't mean kill all the Israelis , that's just an imaginary scare tactics, that's just in some Zionist mind thinking that the Palestinians will do to them.the same exact things that the Zionists have done over the past 80+ years
It is okay to dream of a free whatever you want to call it from the river to the sea where everyone lives free. Where the refugees can go back to their homes and lands that they were evicted from under the threat of mass murder in 1948.
It's okay to talk about this without censorship and the direct accusation of antisemitism, we are semitic too and our struggle as free people from around the world isn't with Jews but with the Zionist colonization that happened to be Jewish and used the Jewish faith in it's advantage.
The Palestinians will react the same way no matter who was occupying them, they didn't chose their colonizers, the colonizers chose them.
As I answered you I expect you to answer me and I'm welling to answer any questions anyone else wants.
I would have loved to be at fusion like I was planning but that environment isn't safe anymore , fusion was more than a music festival but now its not , it's a place of censorship and racism where Palestinians and people who support them aren't equal to others and their lives and freedom isn't Worth the same.