So you are telling me that due to the Jewish diaspora some white person can go back to that land because his ancestors were kicked out 3000 years ago but not the millions of Palestinians that were kicked out 75 years ago, Palestinians who were living in this land for generation extending hundreds and thousands of years? How is that common sense? What this logic Rome should demand England and the whole of Europe.Olivetree hat geschrieben: ↑Mo 8. Apr 2024, 17:57 @mraleki:
So much text and one-sided, twisted thoughts to justify 7th Oct. So many false and ahistorical statements to say that the modern state of Israel has to be destroyed so that "Palestinians" get back "their" land. The land where modern Israel is situated is the home of Jews since 3000 years. Due to the jewish Diaspora they had been scattered around the globe.
In 1947 there was a UN resolution to form two separate jewish and arabic states and put Jerusalem under prolonged UN-control. It was dismissed by the arabs and Israel nevertheless was founded and instantly attacked by their Arab neighbours. The rest is an ongoing history of violence and counter-violence.
Palestinians elected Hamas with +65% after Israel withdrew from Gaza and the majority of them is still supporting them. Hundreds of Gaza-civilians participated on 7th Oct, killed , looted and raped. Hamas' declared goal is to wipe out Israel.
And you? You don't lose a single word about them. You justify their crimes stating that they mostly attacked Israeli soldiers (wrong). You don't urge them to hand over the hostages. You don't urge them to end this madness. You're only blaming the jews and cloaking your anti-semitism by calling them zionists, while pressing to remove Israel of the map.
Let me ask you: what should happen to the roughly 7 Million Jews in Israel, when Palestinians should become "free" (2 Million of them are already free in Israel and till 7th Oct it was possible even for people in Gaza to work in Israel) and get "their" land back? What will happen to them?
The Jews in Palestine in 1878 were 5%, 2 % of them were out of a foreign born, this jumped to 11% in 1922 and 30% in 1944 .. all of this increase isn't because they were native to the land but because they were coming under the British mandate to colonize Palestine and take the land from the native population, then the stupid western sponsored plan happened to give those 30% new colonizers 56% of the land, drawing lines in a map they don't understand taking the homeland away from the native population.
Germans elected nazis, Americans elected bush and trump and many other killers, does that give anyone the right to go and kill the people who elected them? Does that give the Palestinians the OK to go and kill Israelis who elected netanyahu and every war criminal Israeli government? Be careful with this dumb logic
I urge for the release of the hostages, all the hostages starting with all the Palestinian hostages, kids, women and thousands of men in occupation prisons being tortured on daily basis but I guess you only see one type of a hostage and the Palestinians in their occupiers jails are okay to live and suffer because they aren't Jews ? It's okay because they are Arab christians and Muslims.
I am an ant Zionist, many Jews and free people in the world are anti Zionists, and if anyone else had colonized Palestine it would be the same, Palestinians should be free regardless of who is colonizing them.
You have asked me what happens to the 7 million Israeli citizens when Palestine becomes Free? I have never heard a white person ever asking about the 7 million Palestinian refugees living in refugee camps for the past 75 years.
We are always talking about the imaginary situation of the future Free Palestine but we don't speak about the current one, where Palestinians in Palestine are living under a colonial apartheid occupation and 7 millions of them are living in diaspora mostly in refugee camps.
It's not up to me what happens when Palestine is free but I would imagine it as a free land where Jews and Arabs christians and Muslims are equal against the law, where no one has a system of an apartheid dominance over the other, is that too hard ? But I don't think colonizers would ever accept to be equals with the colonized unless when they are forced to like what happened in south Africa.